dumbdumb, so far you have not been able to proof anything you
said from a biblical point of view.
You asked for quotes that support my view and I gave to you -
you have no reply. Instead, you came up with other quotes which you
did not says for what?
Then, you bring in your dead friend, uncles and personal
opinions which does nothing for the discussion.
You depended on Chin Eng to help you and ride on his comments
when you clearly do not even know that his stand is different from
yours!
You are confused over the quotes we are talking about and you
start acussing people of branding you when there was none. You
start calling people names and cursing with no reason except from
those you make up.
You think that only you are saved because you have faith?
Did you wonder why Jesus said not all who call Him Lord with go
to heaven but those who do the will of His father? It was quoted
before and are you confused.
You want sower parable? Go read MT13:18-23 and 47:50
Verse 20-21 says : "The one who received it on patches of rock
is the man who hears the word and welcomes it at once with joy.But
he has no root in him, he does not last, let some trial come, or
some persecution on account of the word, and he falls away at
once"
What do you think of the above? A person who has faith in the
begining but fade away. Still saved? For Chin Eng yes, for you? Do
you need to consult Chin Eng first?
Then are all Christians auto saved? For Chin Eng - Yes, for you?
Wait for Chin Eng to response first and add on his comments?
You think you are the one superhero that is saving the world
with your evangelisation? I have given you enough facts but you
respond with nothing......except more accussation and smears.
What has the burning house got to do with this discussion? Do
you know how many non-christians died in the recent Sichuan
earthquake and the Mnymar cyclone??
At least we pray for them sincerely and ask God for mercy for
these unfortunate victims.
Where are you? Wasting your time acussing people instead of
spreading the good news there? Those non-christians are all going
to hell? You know for sure? And what are you doing about it? Talk
is cheap! Count how many lives you did not save..........
Unless you wake up and grow up, there is nothing to discuss with
you.
P.S. don't bring in anymore innocent dead friends and realtives
of yours to this discussions.....let them rest in peace!
thanks.
i did reply to your bible quotes. and i did supply bible quotes
to support what i've said. but apparently just as the jews were
blind to Jesus's truth, so are you. i've pasted and REpasted what
i've said for your convenience. Grow some eyes.
you haven't answered me, did the thief who died beside Jesus,
did he have any works to show for his salvation?
Did you even read what I said about luke? because apparently you
didn't acknowledge what I said either, but you kept saying my quote
isn't supported by the bible.
LOL, prayer for the dead.. i said it once, and i'll say it
again, you guys build better tombs than houses for the living. have
the thought of sharing the gospel even occurred to you in your
entire catholic life?
have you shared your faith with Jesus to others who never heard
before? Have you been to a mission trip before? If prayer for the
dead wasn't part of the church schedule, you wouldn't even be
participating in it! and as for begging God for mercy for their
souls. Apparently, you don't read enough. Those who has the Son,
has life, and those who don't, doesn't. Honestly, I don't pray for
the dead, Those who died with the Son in their lives, are already
receiving the greatest blessing ever, and nothing I can pray for
can add to that. Unless you're saying thanksgiving. And as for
those who died without Christ, I only feel regret.
I don't try to give excuses for myself by "offering some
prayers" hoping God will change His mind about holiness.
The only way to the Father is through the Son. Can God change
what He decrees? Even with all His compassion, He has to uphold His
holiness.
Also, Jesus didn't tell you to pray for the dead, He told you to
make disciples of all nations. And what have YOU done for the
latter?
And as for the parable of the sower - I once experienced this
part in my life, And I left the church for awhile, before coming
back. Have you? What you know are just theory, while i've tasted
every bit, that's why what I said don't make sense to you. You're
so sheltered in the fact that the catholic church is the "one true
church", you're so oblivious to so many things.
Your family probably are catholics as well, do you ever feel the
anxiety of knowing that your family could die unsaved? did you ever
have to face percercution from your family, driven out from your
house because you became a believer? did you have to face cold
stares and words of anger everytime you try to share the good
news?
If your family aren't believers, then what are you going to do
about it? wait until there is an opportunity to pray for their dead
souls, hoping God will spare them?
You're just somebody who knows what the word teaches, but does
not what the word demands. You have knowledge, but I have works.
Works not because I'm afraid I'll lose my salvation, though. That's
the whole point.
You want my stand? My stand is that salvation comes from faith
and faith alone. Because in the end, that's what the word demands,
that we do the Father's will, which is to look to the Son, and
believe. And we shall have eternal life.
Go pray for the dead souls.. seems like a great idea compared to
preaching the Word. No stress, no pressure, no frustration, no
anxiety, and more importantly, no great personal sacrifice. Great
for laid back people like me. =)